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So far the answer is:

Some checks to vet the risk:

  • Has been updated in last few months (maintained)
  • Developer has resources to debug
  • Big Organisation where reputation loss is an issue

If no to any of these, then don't use the app.

  • Reviews do not mention security issues

  • App asks for odd permissions that shouldn't be needed (privacy labels may not be reliable on Google Play Store, Feb 2023 [2])

If Yes to any of these, then don't use the app

Project/developer has reviewers/Large, popular open source app across multiple platforms

  • This may be ok but I'm unsure if that works, as it depends if the code is reviewed by sufficient 'Good' Actors I assume?

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What security reviews are done on apps in mobile app stores? This question is listed as out of scope but perhaps research blogs if you want more information. Currently no change to the advice above

[2] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/mozilla-says-most-top-apps-on-android-have-misleading-privacy-labels/

So far the answer is:

Some checks to vet the risk:

  • Has been updated in last few months (maintained)
  • Developer has resources to debug
  • Big Organisation where reputation loss is an issue

If no to any of these, then don't use the app.

  • Reviews do not mention security issues

  • App asks for odd permissions that shouldn't be needed

If Yes to any of these, then don't use the app

Project/developer has reviewers/Large, popular open source app across multiple platforms

  • This may be ok but I'm unsure if that works, as it depends if the code is reviewed by sufficient 'Good' Actors I assume?

Related:  What security reviews are done on apps in mobile app stores? This question is listed as out of scope but perhaps research blogs if you want more information. Currently no change to the advice above

So far the answer is:

Some checks to vet the risk:

  • Has been updated in last few months (maintained)
  • Developer has resources to debug
  • Big Organisation where reputation loss is an issue

If no to any of these, then don't use the app.

  • Reviews do not mention security issues

  • App asks for odd permissions that shouldn't be needed (privacy labels may not be reliable on Google Play Store, Feb 2023 [2])

If Yes to any of these, then don't use the app

Project/developer has reviewers/Large, popular open source app across multiple platforms

  • This may be ok but I'm unsure if that works, as it depends if the code is reviewed by sufficient 'Good' Actors I assume?

Related: 

What security reviews are done on apps in mobile app stores? This question is listed as out of scope but perhaps research blogs if you want more information. Currently no change to the advice above

[2] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/mozilla-says-most-top-apps-on-android-have-misleading-privacy-labels/

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So far the answer is:

Some checks to vet the risk:

  • Has been updated in last few months (maintained)
  • Developer has resources to debug
  • Big Organisation where reputation loss is an issue

If no to any of these, then don't use the app.

  • Reviews do not mention security issues

  • App asks for odd permissions that shouldn't be needed

If Yes to any of these, then don't use the app

Project/developer has reviewers/Large, popular open source app across multiple platforms

  • This may be ok but I'm unsure if that works, as it depends if the code is reviewed by sufficient 'Good' Actors I assume?

Related: What security reviews are done on apps in mobile app stores? This question is listed as out of scope but perhaps research blogs if you want more information. Currently no change to the advice above

So far the answer is:

Some checks to vet the risk:

  • Has been updated in last few months (maintained)
  • Developer has resources to debug
  • Big Organisation where reputation loss is an issue

If no to any of these, then don't use the app.

  • Reviews do not mention security issues

  • App asks for odd permissions that shouldn't be needed

If Yes to any of these, then don't use the app

Project/developer has reviewers/Large, popular open source app across multiple platforms

  • This may be ok but I'm unsure if that works, as it depends if the code is reviewed by sufficient 'Good' Actors I assume?

So far the answer is:

Some checks to vet the risk:

  • Has been updated in last few months (maintained)
  • Developer has resources to debug
  • Big Organisation where reputation loss is an issue

If no to any of these, then don't use the app.

  • Reviews do not mention security issues

  • App asks for odd permissions that shouldn't be needed

If Yes to any of these, then don't use the app

Project/developer has reviewers/Large, popular open source app across multiple platforms

  • This may be ok but I'm unsure if that works, as it depends if the code is reviewed by sufficient 'Good' Actors I assume?

Related: What security reviews are done on apps in mobile app stores? This question is listed as out of scope but perhaps research blogs if you want more information. Currently no change to the advice above

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Use ios

  • I think Apple does more checks and suitable ones compared to Google. I think Apple has a higher reputation for Security on it's products, app store than Google

Whether the above about ios vs Google Play is fair or not needs clarifying. But some sources from a quick search:

“The risk of malicious apps tends to be higher on Android because it’s a more open operating system. It’s incredibly difficult to download an app that isn’t from the Apple App Store on an iOS device, which is one of the benefits of the company’s walled garden approach.

“Malicious mobile apps usually appear innocuous, but run malicious code in the background that can spy on the individual and everything they do on their device,” Schless went on to say.

https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/mobile-news/are-iphones-more-secure-than-android-phones-4205231 Date: 2022

"Android’s open Google Play Store marketplace has far more apps to choose from than on Apple's App Store, but there’s a far greater chance that hackers can make it onto the platform to distribute malware through malicious apps.

On numerous occasions, highly ranked apps with hundreds of thousands of downloads from the Google Play Store have been discovered to contain Android malware.

Android users can also change their settings to allow apps from outside of the Google Play Store. This provides an even greater selection of apps, but opens users to an even greater risk of downloading a malicious app. Apple's secure App Store wins comfortably on this front.

As a side note, make sure to avoid third party app stores; while the Play Store and the App Store have their faults, they're both much safer than the many unofficial app marketplaces elsewhere online."

https://nordvpn.com/blog/ios-vs-android-security/ - Date 2022

"Android operating system Popularity: The Android operating system is hugely popular. This means that developers are constantly building new apps designed to run on the system. That’s good for users ... mostly. The problem comes when hackers create apps designed to infect your mobile devices.

There is an app review process for Google Play. Unfortunately, the process is far less stringent than what developers face when adding apps to Apple’s App Store.

It's easier, then, for malicious apps to sneak onto the Google Play store and easier for users to accidentally install one. One of the main issues is that the end user can go into an Android device and enable the installation of software from unknown sources.

This means that you can install software on the Android device that does not come from the Google PlayStore.

The software—or APK, as it’s called—can be downloaded and installed from a website bypassing the Google PlayStore review."

emphasis added for bold https://us.norton.com/blog/mobile/android-vs-ios-which-is-more-secure# Date 2022

https://www.makeuseof.com/apple-vs-android-which-is-more-secure/ - Date 2022

https://www.howtogeek.com/224096/why-iphones-are-more-secure-than-android-phones/ - Date 2015

Permissions

  • I keep being asked for sensor access for no reason I can see on major apps on Google Play that wasn't there as far as I know for ios

You can block the odd permissions later?, ref GraphenOS Sandboxing Google Play etc...

  • Not sure this is viable for many users

ios issues/phone access to employer systems

"A well-run organization wouldn’t enable its myriad employee laptops to access its core systems without any protection. But with our phones, it’s all very different."

Android’s reputation for securing its fragmented ecosystem is not good—the widely held view is that iPhone’s are much safer. But you can buy an Android and lock it down fairly easily.

Not so with an iPhone. *Apple makes its devices harder to attack, but also harder to protect.

You are reliant on Apple to do the work for you—and so, for users and companies now under attack, Shwed warns that this has become a serious issue, that the security risks between the two platforms are now “balanced.”

Emphasis added

There have been many more mobile vulnerabilities targeting and exploiting Android devices than iPhones in the last year—unsurprisingly; iPhones are much more secure, right?

No, Shwed, tells me. “I think the risks are for both. There are zero-day attacks and there are malware on both platforms. I think it's actually very balanced.”

His point here is interesting. If you use an Android, then the onus is on you, the user, to secure your device. There are plenty of security platforms available from leading vendors.

And they can wrapper the device. If you’re an enterprise user, then your company can do the same for you. This overcomes the issues with Android’s fragmented ecosystem, the lag in deploying security patches and general updates, the relative lack of security on the Play Store compared to Apple’s equivalent.

But with iPhone, the onus is on Apple to keep you safe. And two urgent OS updates in the last few weeks, with some admission of exploits being caught in the wild, clearly shows that the threat is real.

“iPhone is a much more closed system,” Shwed says, “and Apple regulates much more what's on the platform, which theoretically or practically make it a little bit more secure. On the other hand, there is also limitation about what security software can do an iOS. So the balance may be the same.”

The extent and severity of those risks are not balanced, though. “With Android, it's much easier to develop software, to use software, and that software can be more malicious than on iOS. But at the same time, on Android, you can build much better security software because the same openness exists also towards security systems.”

All of which presents a dilemma for CISO’s handling the new normal, hybrid workforce, which will prevent reverting to walled garden, no external access, enterprise solutions anytime soon. “In the past, you can work remotely—in the past, it was fun to say that and we did it small part of the time. Today it's 100% of the time.”

For Shwed, this means another new normal—no security software on your phone, no access to your company systems. “It's not very difficult,” he says. “In Check Point, everybody using your own phone, you're doing whatever you want. But once you want to access the corporate email or the corporate systems, it checks that you have our threat prevention software on your mobile phone. If you don't have it, you can't access the system. That's very simple. Everybody installed that software. And if they don't, they can't access the system. And they don't risk it.”

The risk of a cyber pandemic is real—you’ll see ever more warnings over the coming months. What we’ve seen recently with expansive attacks, allied to a still fragmented workforce and new supply chains has left huge vulnerabilities.

This hasn't copied/been formatted well, needs adjustment for 3rd time...

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/03/16/iphone-12-pro-max-and-iphone-13-not-more-secure-than-google-and-samsung-android-warns-cyber-billionaire/

Date: Mar 16, 2021 (more than 1 year old though)

Use ios

  • I think Apple does more checks and suitable ones compared to Google. I think Apple has a higher reputation for Security on it's products, app store than Google

Whether the above about ios vs Google Play is fair or not needs clarifying. But some sources from a quick search:

“The risk of malicious apps tends to be higher on Android because it’s a more open operating system. It’s incredibly difficult to download an app that isn’t from the Apple App Store on an iOS device, which is one of the benefits of the company’s walled garden approach.

“Malicious mobile apps usually appear innocuous, but run malicious code in the background that can spy on the individual and everything they do on their device,” Schless went on to say.

https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/mobile-news/are-iphones-more-secure-than-android-phones-4205231 Date: 2022

"Android’s open Google Play Store marketplace has far more apps to choose from than on Apple's App Store, but there’s a far greater chance that hackers can make it onto the platform to distribute malware through malicious apps.

On numerous occasions, highly ranked apps with hundreds of thousands of downloads from the Google Play Store have been discovered to contain Android malware.

Android users can also change their settings to allow apps from outside of the Google Play Store. This provides an even greater selection of apps, but opens users to an even greater risk of downloading a malicious app. Apple's secure App Store wins comfortably on this front.

As a side note, make sure to avoid third party app stores; while the Play Store and the App Store have their faults, they're both much safer than the many unofficial app marketplaces elsewhere online."

https://nordvpn.com/blog/ios-vs-android-security/ - Date 2022

"Android operating system Popularity: The Android operating system is hugely popular. This means that developers are constantly building new apps designed to run on the system. That’s good for users ... mostly. The problem comes when hackers create apps designed to infect your mobile devices.

There is an app review process for Google Play. Unfortunately, the process is far less stringent than what developers face when adding apps to Apple’s App Store.

It's easier, then, for malicious apps to sneak onto the Google Play store and easier for users to accidentally install one. One of the main issues is that the end user can go into an Android device and enable the installation of software from unknown sources.

This means that you can install software on the Android device that does not come from the Google PlayStore.

The software—or APK, as it’s called—can be downloaded and installed from a website bypassing the Google PlayStore review."

emphasis added for bold https://us.norton.com/blog/mobile/android-vs-ios-which-is-more-secure# Date 2022

https://www.makeuseof.com/apple-vs-android-which-is-more-secure/ - Date 2022

https://www.howtogeek.com/224096/why-iphones-are-more-secure-than-android-phones/ - Date 2015

Permissions

  • I keep being asked for sensor access for no reason I can see on major apps on Google Play that wasn't there as far as I know for ios

You can block the odd permissions later?, ref GraphenOS Sandboxing Google Play etc...

  • Not sure this is viable for many users

ios issues/phone access to employer systems

"A well-run organization wouldn’t enable its myriad employee laptops to access its core systems without any protection. But with our phones, it’s all very different."

Android’s reputation for securing its fragmented ecosystem is not good—the widely held view is that iPhone’s are much safer. But you can buy an Android and lock it down fairly easily.

Not so with an iPhone. *Apple makes its devices harder to attack, but also harder to protect.

You are reliant on Apple to do the work for you—and so, for users and companies now under attack, Shwed warns that this has become a serious issue, that the security risks between the two platforms are now “balanced.”

Emphasis added

There have been many more mobile vulnerabilities targeting and exploiting Android devices than iPhones in the last year—unsurprisingly; iPhones are much more secure, right?

No, Shwed, tells me. “I think the risks are for both. There are zero-day attacks and there are malware on both platforms. I think it's actually very balanced.”

His point here is interesting. If you use an Android, then the onus is on you, the user, to secure your device. There are plenty of security platforms available from leading vendors.

And they can wrapper the device. If you’re an enterprise user, then your company can do the same for you. This overcomes the issues with Android’s fragmented ecosystem, the lag in deploying security patches and general updates, the relative lack of security on the Play Store compared to Apple’s equivalent.

But with iPhone, the onus is on Apple to keep you safe. And two urgent OS updates in the last few weeks, with some admission of exploits being caught in the wild, clearly shows that the threat is real.

“iPhone is a much more closed system,” Shwed says, “and Apple regulates much more what's on the platform, which theoretically or practically make it a little bit more secure. On the other hand, there is also limitation about what security software can do an iOS. So the balance may be the same.”

The extent and severity of those risks are not balanced, though. “With Android, it's much easier to develop software, to use software, and that software can be more malicious than on iOS. But at the same time, on Android, you can build much better security software because the same openness exists also towards security systems.”

All of which presents a dilemma for CISO’s handling the new normal, hybrid workforce, which will prevent reverting to walled garden, no external access, enterprise solutions anytime soon. “In the past, you can work remotely—in the past, it was fun to say that and we did it small part of the time. Today it's 100% of the time.”

For Shwed, this means another new normal—no security software on your phone, no access to your company systems. “It's not very difficult,” he says. “In Check Point, everybody using your own phone, you're doing whatever you want. But once you want to access the corporate email or the corporate systems, it checks that you have our threat prevention software on your mobile phone. If you don't have it, you can't access the system. That's very simple. Everybody installed that software. And if they don't, they can't access the system. And they don't risk it.”

The risk of a cyber pandemic is real—you’ll see ever more warnings over the coming months. What we’ve seen recently with expansive attacks, allied to a still fragmented workforce and new supply chains has left huge vulnerabilities.

This hasn't copied/been formatted well, needs adjustment for 3rd time...

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/03/16/iphone-12-pro-max-and-iphone-13-not-more-secure-than-google-and-samsung-android-warns-cyber-billionaire/

Date: Mar 16, 2021 (more than 1 year old though)

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