22

On a whim I've recently decided to throw up the first proper website I created onto my local web server I use for development. I thought it'd be a great environment to throw some SQL at for injection as I know there are flaws and the site was only really meant for my own personal development.

Anyway, to get to the point, after a few attempts the furthest I could get was to have the page return an error with the statement. I was trying to get into a specific test account I set up, (if the result returns more than one account an error's thrown, so I didn't expect selecting every username where 1=1 to work), but every time I got a response as if I had entered a normal, incorrect password. I took a look at the PHP code and turns out I was hashing the password before the query so the attack was being hashed before it could do any harm.

Being new to web security as a whole, and having an interest in web development, I was wondering whether there are any vulnerabilities with this method of SQL injection prevention as I expect to have not thought something through. Just to clarify, this isn't meant to be a "look guys I've found something new" as there are plenty more brighter sparks in information security than myself, who would have likely figured this out already, but I'd like to know why this likely isn't suitable as a security mechanism.

2
  • An answer to a distantly related question that I was reading earlier today, especially "The act of hashing a password is the act of making the password safe to store in your database. The hash function doesn't give special meaning to any bytes, so no cleansing of its input is required for security reasons" Commented Dec 19, 2016 at 19:01
  • Any information that is hashed can't be displayed. You end up hashing only for some and not for other. If you are thinking of using other cipher then you end up with the same problem as just replacing ' with '', you hope that this solution works, which often time doesn't because of special cases that you didn't think of. Better have a consistent method that has proven to work which is parameterize query.
    – the_lotus
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 13:52

5 Answers 5

36

So, hashing the user password before entering it into the query is a coincidental security feature to prevent SQL injection, but you can't necessarily do that with all user input. If I'm looking up a Customer by their Name and I have a query like

Select * from Customer Where Name like '%userInput%'

If I set userInput as a hashed version of what was typed in, it wouldn't work correctly even if Name was also hashed in the database, it would only work for exact search query. So if I had a Customer with Name "Sue" and I typed in a search for "sue", it wouldn't work. I also wouldn't know the name of the customers unless there was an exact match in my search, which isn't practical.

The way you want to prevent SQL injection is to not make your queries like above, you'll want to process and parameterize inputs into a query, stripping out things like =s and other symbols that don't make sense in context of the input. A good guide for preventing SQL injection can be found here.

8
  • 21
    1. Nowadays, any reasonably maintained query engine does parameterization out of the box, meaning you don't need to do any sanitizing yourself. You just learn the parameterization syntax, write your query that way, and pass the values in separately from the string containing the query. So I think saying you "process" these inputs is misleading. 2. Sanitizing input doesn't "strip" symbols; it escapes them.
    – jpmc26
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 0:09
  • > "So if I had a Customer with Name "Sue" and I typed in a search for "sue", it wouldn't work" — this actually can work if the name is always converted to lowercase before storing it to DB. (but I'm not saying that it's a good practice of course) Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 8:06
  • @Sarge Sure, that's called normalization. But it still wouldn't match on a query for "Borsch" - because it's hashed, you're matching all or nothing.
    – Riking
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 8:45
  • 1
    Thanks for the response, and the guide also. Though I'm still curious as to why methods of obfuscation aren't used in protecting against SQL Injection more, as it seems to do the job quite well, and even something such as a caesars cipher could provide a quite effective prevention of SQL injection. Of course I'm not suggesting this solely be used as a single point of defence as that seems like a terrible idea with any method of security, but rather wonder why it's not such a popular prevention method used alongside others.
    – lewis
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 8:51
  • @Riking from a development and not security point of view, I'd say converting to upper / lower case before hashing should solve that, for usernames where case sensitivity shouldn't be an issue.
    – lewis
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 8:55
7

Basically yes, if you hash input (represented in Hex or Base64 format) before passing it to SQL, it can no longer be an effective SQLi attack vector. The same goes if you parseInt the input. Those simply do not support the characters needed for a useful SQLi. (namely to break out of the quoted string)

This technique has only limited utility in practice. i.e. it would not be compatible with some of the famous SQL features such as LIKE, <, >,
or indexed equality searches (= and <> using index)

As a side note, I would point out that password hashes really should be salted. If that criteria were met in your example, then I think you would no longer be including a hash in the SQL WHERE clause.

2
  • 7
    That said... once you hash you can never go back. Hashing user input before storage would defeat injection even with weak code, surely, but you'd never be able to use this approach in the general case since, other than passwords, you don't really want to destroy the data you're having the user input in the first place.
    – J...
    Commented Dec 19, 2016 at 19:26
  • 1
    "I would point out that password hashes really should be salted." Such a good point!! If you don't use salts properly, you might end up creating the greatest crossword puzzle in the history of the world just like Adobe did... Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 11:02
1

What you are doing (inadvertently) is part of what is known as "sanitizing your input", which are steps every application should be taking to reduce defects (and therefore vulnerabilities.)

An app should first ensure the input can't overflow the app's ability to accept data. That might mean length-checking the input, or otherwise rejecting oversized data.

Next, the app should be checking input against a whitelist, if possible, to make sure that no unwanted input can enter the logic. In some cases this might mean ensuring the input only contains valid alphanumeric characters. But sometimes a whitelist doesn't make sense for that particular input field, yet the developer still needs to prevent injection, so they incorporate a blacklist. The blacklist validates the input doesn't contain symbols known to make injection possible. The drawback to blacklists is that they only protect against what the developer knows to block. An example might be a blacklist that stops a quote mark to prevent SQL injection; but the developer might not recognize when input passes through URL encoded that a %27 will become a quote mark.

Internally, the application should be written defensively to guard against various forms of injection. Using parameterized SQL (instead of constructing a SQL query using concatenation) helps prevent SQL injection. But many other places where user input lands can be vulnerable to different types of injection. Directory paths can be impacted if an attacker inputs something like "..\..\..\..\..\..\windows\cmd.exe" XPath queries can be injected to tamper with unauthorized data. And JavaScript can pass all the way through the database to tamper with the victim's browser. Other forms of defense include not revealing internal diagnostic error messages in the output, and logging to assist in identifying potential attackers.

What your app has done is to first pass the input to a hash routine, which has the dual effect of sanitizing the data and limiting its length before it arrives at the SQL step. Just be mindful that the input to the hash routine may still be vulnerable to a buffer overflow. What happens when an attacker enters a password of "aaaa[...repeated 1000 times...]aaaa_Evil_Injection_Here"? Your app still needs to handle that.

5
  • 6
    I disagree with your concentration on sanitization. That's the sort of thing that leads to Mr O'Doherty being unable to enter his name into a web-form (and no: Odoherty and ODoherty are both wrong). In my view the right approach is to make sure that you don't trust untrusted data - throughout the life of the data (so the javascript should not be included in the output webpage in a way that it is executed Commented Dec 19, 2016 at 20:50
  • 1
    @MartinBonner, I agree that whitelisting and blacklisting are not nearly as good as writing high-quality code that can accept the input without risking an injection attack. However, with the complexity of many development shops (contractor team A writes the GUI, different contractor team B writes the app server, contractor team C writes the rules engine, etc.) the quality of the underlying layers varies. Sometimes defensive coding at a higher layer prevents exploiting a vulnerability that exists at a lower layer. Commented Dec 19, 2016 at 21:37
  • 2
    Depressingly, I think you may be right. :-( Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 6:39
  • I agree with Martin... check my name... guess how many times I have seen messages like 'Last name contains illegal characters'? The fact is that performing the sanitation yourself is very difficult, very error-prone and usually wrong. You don't actually want to prevent a user from typing a space or quote... You just want to make sure those symbols don't mess with whatever rules the output format has. The best way to deal with it imho is indeed to know that user data (which includes all data stored in the DB) is not safe and use whatever escaping mechanism is in place for that format. Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 11:08
  • I disagree with "Sanitizing your input" - although the data is an input to the system, it is OUTPUT from the application tier (where SQL injection occurs).
    – symcbean
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 12:27
1

Like many other learners, you are confusing the storage and the transport. And in order to protect the latter, you are deliberately spoiling the former.

You have to understand that SQL injection is not called "Database injection" for a reason. You don't have to protect the database, the storage. All you need to protect is the transport - the SQL query. While your storage should be able to store the data as is, or it will be of no value at all. If you still need any proof for that statement,

  • there could be different clients, who have no idea of your home-brewed "protection"
  • there is not only strict comparison, and not only comparison: there are helluvalot of statements in which your data could be involved: arithmetics, substring search, various conversions, string manipulations and calculations of all sorts
  • a database is not only used to store your data but also to manipulate it. Try to order your hashed usernames
  • after all, sometimes you need to print the data back from a database.

So you can tell that whatever protection measure that does change the stored data in any way is simply wrong. And your idea is simply not well thought.

0

Hashing protects SQL injection of the password field by virtue of the step that encodes its binary output back to a string.

This protection is normally useless but suffices if the following assumptions are true:

  • Your application doesn't handle strings anywhere but username and password.
  • You strip username of ' and \ characters.

If either of these are not true or may ever be in the future, hashing is not a useful defense. This eliminates 99.9% of web applications.

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .