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The dark web is like a lair for hackers/criminals/etc. But has anyone, like the FBI or CIA ever found the main server of the dark web? Where is the main server located? I thought all Internet data flows are being watched by many government institutes like the FBI/CIA. Why have they not closed down the main server of the dark web itself?

I mean the dark web is actually a part of the "healthy"/"surface" web, right? Why did they not get caught by the main server provider?

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    Why do you think there is a single server? Why would it be a single server? – schroeder Dec 26 '17 at 16:47
  • When you are talking about the TOR network (which is not what IT professionals call "dark web" but what many laypeople think of when they do), then there is no "main server". – Philipp Dec 26 '17 at 17:31
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    Don't hate the questioner, it is what people wonders about and the answers were being interesting to read. – Alexander Fadeev Apr 27 '20 at 21:55
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    If you are referring to Tor, a little background. Tor was originally an acronym (TOR) for The Onion Router. It is now simply Tor just as Nabisco is no longer (NABISCO) National Biscuit Company. TOR was originally developed in the 90's by the U.S. Naval Research Lab (NRL). In late 2006 it spun off to become the independent Tor Project. By far, the lion's share of funding to maintain Tor has been and still is the U.S. Government. I had this as an answer, but schoeder deleted it. – user10216038 Apr 28 '20 at 17:45
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The dark web is like a lair for hackers/criminals/etc.

That's an oversimplification, but we'll go with it.

But has anyone, like FBI or CIA ever found the main server of the dark web? Where is the main server located? I thought all Internet data flows are being watched by many government institutes like FBI/CIA. Why have they not chased the main server of the dark web itself?

I mean the dark web is actually a part of the "healthy"/"surface" web right ? why they did not get caught by the main server provider ?

We apparently need to cover a broad number of basics here.

First, there is no main server of the public web. That is not how the web works. I can't go into that much detail in an SE answer, but your computer generally uses (the distributed) DNS to turn a human-readable hostname into an IP address, and then that gets routed across physical wires based on (again, distributed) routing protocols and data until it gets to the server it's supposed to get to.

The so-called dark web is structured similarly - different people run different web servers, and traffic has to go to the right places. The difference is in how you get there.

There's an anonymizing technology called Tor. When used to connect to the public web, a tor user's traffic goes through three different intermediate servers before trying to get to the requested website. The first node knows who the user is, but not what they were requesting (it's encrypted). The third node knows what's being requested, but not who requested it. And the middle node knows essentially nothing. This process prevents the website and other MitM snoopers like the NSA from knowing who is requesting that website.

(Insert a bunch of caveats here around anonymity with tor, attacks on the protocol, safe browsing, and general advice to please go look up more than this comment before relying on it.)

Tor also provides a feature known as hidden services, where the website operator also sets up a circuit of three nodes to connect to. A tor user's circuit meets up with the website's circuit, and traffic flows through all six of the nodes without anyone knowing who the other parties are. This is how the deep web works.

The only question then is how the two meet up in the first place, and that uses yet another distributed piece of technology, a distributed hash table built into tor. So there's no centralized server to shut down here, either.

The weak point here is that the website operator needs to not leak their identity or the server's location on accident, which can happen through all sorts of misconfiguration or human error. But even if they do, that is only that one site that gets shut down, not some giant shutdown of the network. Also, anonymity is not illegal, so there is no legal reason for the feds to shut down tor overall, even if they could. It in fact started as a US government project to assist people in oppressive regimes.

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  • "It in fact started as a US government project to assist people in oppressive regimes." And now it's being used against the oppressive regime that started it. :D – Overmind Apr 28 '20 at 13:00
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This question is interesting in that it reveals some assumptions people have about the internet as whole.

First of all, the basic premise of this question is, for lack of a better term, wrong. The internet as a whole was designed by the US Department of Defense to be resilient to a Soviet nuclear attack and to withstand elimination of nodes without losing communication by bypassing missing nodes. As such, there isn't a lot of central control of the internet because that would eliminate its main purpose (resiliency in the event of a nuclear strike).

Secondly, the level of traffic on the internet is HUGE. Noting Arminius's comment above, the FBI/CIA/what have you would need to sift through an amazing amount of traffic on the web to get to the deep web traffic. Cisco estimates that in 2017 this was 96,054 petabytes per month.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_traffic It would take a lot of computing resources to comb through that, to put it mildly.

Even if there were a main deep web server, as the question asks, finding it would be a challenging. IP addresses are logical addresses and don't reveal much of anything. You can track ownership of the address through ICANN, but there doesn't need to be real person responsible for it and they can be located anywhere in the world, processed through layers of shell companies. You would be able to track some info through the ISP, but that assumes that other things (microwave relay, running a wire) haven't been done to mask the location of the server in question. And, were the alleged central server to be located in a country where law enforcement is lax, corrupt, or non-existent, there's almost nothing that could be done. Sure, we'd know where it is, but we won't get any cooperation from law enforcement there.

So, to answer your question:

  1. The deep web is part of the internet as a whole; it's not a separate internet
  2. There is no central server for the internet, much less for the deep web
  3. The amount of traffic on the internet is huge, making it logistically impossible to filter through it all and find something if you don't know where to start
  4. Even if such a server did exist, it would be difficult to find and if out of the reach of US law enforcement, impossible to seize.
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    But your scenario for finding the server depends on the idea that you don't know what you are looking for. If you can connect to the server, it becomes a much more targetted task to physically locate it (with law enforcement and ISP cooperation). Searching for a server that you do not know is the herculean task. – schroeder Dec 26 '17 at 15:21
  • @schroeder good point, noting one assumption I made that may be in error. – baldPrussian Dec 26 '17 at 15:23
  • This answer doesn't address caveats intrinsic to deanonymizing "dark web" services, such as Tor hidden services, I2P eepsites, or Freenet freesites. The reason it is hard to find such a server is not because the internet is huge, but because these services use anonymizing techniques to efficiently hide their location while still being addressable with the right technology. – forest Dec 27 '17 at 2:18
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Dark web is not a server and also it is not a part of surface web. To clear, so many points let's understand the concept of dark web deeply.

The web is a very big and what you access everyday is called surface web. Surface web only comprises of 5% of the entire web, whereas the remaining 95% comprises of Deep web and Dark web. The Deep web has the largest chunk in the World Wide Web at 92% and 3% is the Dark web.

The Dark Web is a tiny part of the internet, yet it has many players. It is where users seek for anonymity since their IP addresses and connection are masked from surveillance or hackers. Yet, governments and security authorities have advanced technologies to sniff out illegal activities. There are also hackers too who also lurk in the dark web.

  • When people browse on the dark web, their true identity is anonymous.
  • One must never disclose their real identity or financial information to anyone on the dark web, as some dangerous people also lurk in the background and could use your sensitive and personal information for illegal purposes.
  • To access Dark Web pages, one needs to use special software.
    Example of the special software is Tor.
  • Dark web pages are .onion pages
  • Dark web pages cannot be accessed by a regular search engine, but only through special software like Tor.
  • It is important to know the specific URL to be able to access the dark web pages otherwise you may go to a wrong page which could be dangerous.
  • On dark web everything is anonymous, especially on the marketplaces where people can sell illegal stuff too like guns, drugs, fraud credit cards through illegal networks. There are bad websites where important information about people or organizations etc. are traded.
  • However, there are also some good stuff on the Dark web like people buy books, for education, to send best anonymous email for free etc.

How do you access the Dark Web?

You can access the Dark web using special software like TOR or ‘The Onion Router’ as it is credible. It is an open-source software that enables anonymous communication. Anyone can contribute the project and have access information to anything. Since, the Dark web enables anonymity, many people also use it to access encrypted mail services. There are many email providers, but going with a [reputed dark web email providers][1] is a wise decision.

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  • This is a direct copy/paste of your other posts where you also try to advertise your service. – schroeder Dec 2 '20 at 9:27
  • It's not even answering the question. It's also full of statements I find very questionable or I know are factually wrong. – Philipp Dec 2 '20 at 10:01
  • This answer is my opinion based on my experience. This forum is all about sharing your own views and solution to someone's question/query. So please share your own views on the question instead of criticizing someone on their answers. – Diana Cambridge Dec 3 '20 at 11:47

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