I was reading an article about the Ars Technica hack here and had a couple of questions. The commenter said:

"PHPass uses salted and iterated MD5 to hash passwords"

My question is that if I were to design a new system, would using salted, multiple iterations of MD5 be considered acceptable, vs just using SHA256, bcrypt, etc? why would I use MD5, even this implementation of it, vs something considered more secure by the industry?

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    As was noted in the link you provided, phpBB uses MD5 to provide compatibility with older php installs that may not have a more modern hashing algorithm. Rather than design a new system, you could employ the more modern and secure password_hash. Dec 17, 2014 at 20:56

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What is wanted first and foremost is a hashing algorithm that is slow. Crackers crack password hashes by running password dictionaries and other combinations of characters through the hash algorithm to see whether the computed hash matches the one stolen from a database. The slower you can make that process, the harder it will be to "reverse" your hashes if they're stolen.

Next, every password needs a different random "salt" concatenated with it before computing the hash. The cracker who gets the password hashes will be able to get the salts, too, but the presence of the salt foils precomputation attacks. Every hash must be attacked separately.

Finally, you should consider using a secret key not stored in a database as a component of the hash. This is sometimes called a "pepper" and the result is a keyed hash. The attacker who gets hashes through something like SQL injection will not be able to crack them because that secret key is needed. (Of course, the attacker who compromises the OS can get everything, but that's significantly harder than just compromising a database.)

The question (and answer) noted by Xander have thorough coverage: How to securely hash passwords? There's a good essay here: https://crackstation.net/hashing-security.htm and some more advice here: http://bitmonger.blogspot.com/2012/07/six-simple-rules-for-secure-storage-of.html

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