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This question about Advanced Persistent Threats (APT) was posted by Rich Mogull on twitter. I copied it here because I'm curious too.

Rich posted these follow-up tweets:

And by APT I mean real APT.... China specific stuff.
Netwitness/Mandiant/HBGary type stuff.
Really specialize in this. Most of what I've seen is very custom.

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    Original twitter post is: twitter.com/#!/rmogull/status/22019761063854082
    – Steve
    Commented Jan 3, 2011 at 22:06
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    Perhaps amending "dealing with APT" to "dealing with the possibility of APT" would qualify more answers--it's my understanding that most security professionals who are actually dealing with APT have some very strong NDEs about it.
    – user502
    Commented Jan 4, 2011 at 15:19
  • The APT I know is Automatic Programmed Tool - What does this acronym stand for?
    – Dave
    Commented Jan 4, 2011 at 17:08
  • I'm guessing, like user502 there, that people really doing this work can't talk about it, due to NDAs or something stronger. DAve, he's talking about the Advanced Persistent Threat (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Persistent_Threat).
    – Bill Weiss
    Commented Jan 4, 2011 at 23:04
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    I know the bits I have done in the past on this, but am interested in anything that can be disclosed, under an anonymous user ID if need be. Popped a wee bounty up to see if it will spur anyone on.
    – Rory Alsop
    Commented Jan 6, 2011 at 0:13

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Due to the sensitive nature of APT and that it is closely aligned to espionage, the only real way to get a suitable feed will be through Government or National Law Enforcement agencies.

The difficulty will be in establishing a level of trust to enable the sharing of information.

For organisations within the USA, the advice is to contact your local FBI field office and arrange for a threat briefing on the subject.

For organisations within the UK, then making contact with CPNI (Centre for the Protection of National Infrastructure) would be the best option. CPNI hold a number of industry specific 'Information Exchange' forums that may be of help. However it is worth noting that CPNI has a focus on the critical national infrastructure for the UK and if your organisation falls outside of this may impact on access to that.

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  • France: check with ANSSI. Germany: check with BSI.
    – Phil L.
    Commented Jul 18, 2019 at 10:37
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I don't know whether they have specific SIEM/IDS feeds, but a good intelligence source historically has been iDefense (now part of Verisign - http://labs.idefense.com/).

Historically (prior to the security research they're more well known for now) iDefense were a commercial intelligence organisation, and spent a lot of time tracking organised crime and malware groups on behalf of their clients.

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Post HBGary getting owned, it appears that endgames.us offers these services.

Personally, I would go with combining DShield with SHODAN data and start building your own.t

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